They may also recommend a minimum and maximum amount of powder to load in the gun. It just appeals to my ocd to have perfectly round patches ready to go that i can make in quantity anytime. Thompson center muzzleloading bullets 50 caliber 490 diameter 175 grain round ball box of 100. At the lunenburg gun show i picked up an old traditions 50 cal shenandoah flintlock for pretty much dirt cheap money. Theyre saturated with our natural lube formula that helps. Midsouth carries everything from the muzzleloader, rifle, or pistol you want, to the black powder, sabots, and bullets that go in it, in stock and for sale, from great brand like lyman, cva, traditions, tc, pyrodex, blackhorn 209, and many more.
Wheelweight alloy balls are hard to load under this rule of thumb, so try to use pure lead balls. In addition, youll find no mouldparting lines, air pocket voids or sprue marks that could impede accuracy. Muzzleloader wads, rifle wads, cap and ball pistol wads and. Traditions performance firearms muzzleloader deluxe tubular flask with valve brass thompson center accessories 31007223 powder spout for pyrodex container muzzleloaders black powder flask 50 grain capacity. Precision shooting patches for round ball precision shooting patches. If you have very little resistance, you know that your rifle s bore is probably larger than just. Too tight overall, very hard to load when theres even just a little bit of caking in the barrel. Hey guys, i made a patch cutter from a number 11 cap tin.
Your rifle will either like a 490 gr ball or a 495 depending on the bore tightness. Traditions performance firearms muzzleloader patch puller. Hornady round ball muzzleloading bullets brownells. Proven to reduce fouling and save loading and cleaning time. My question is, which is the best size to use considering the lubed patch. These prelubricated shooting patches are 100% cotton, come in uniform thickness of. Note that this is from page 52, on page 74 ball ammunition is listed as 400 grains with 0. Perfectly sized for superior accuracy and performance. Nov 08, 2017 in detail it is specific to the actual bore size, which could be a true 0.
Jun 05, 2014 if it loads too easy, and accuracy is poor, you might try the ually the better ball to bore fit, the more accurate the rifle, and the patches wont burn through so easy. These nonlubricated shooting patches are 100% cotton, come in uniform thickness of. Traditions performance firearms muzzleloader ramrod accessories pack. If you use one of the dirtier powders melt 1 parts of beeswax and 8 parts of tallow in a pot. The local walmart and the local gun shop both carry. Midsouth carries everything from the 50 caliber muzzleloader rifle or pistol you want, to the black powder, sabots, and bullets that go in it, in stock and for sale, from great brand like lyman, cva, traditions, tc, pyrodex, blackhorn 209, and many more. Flints, knapped or cut gun flints for muskets, fowling guns, rifles, pistols. But i have a long way to go with many things to try. Midsouth carries everything from the muzzleloader, rifle, or pistol you want, to the black powder, sabots, lead balls, and bullets that go in it, in stock and for sale, from great brand like lyman. Jan 02, 2008 patch can be cut round or square try 3 times diameter of barrel to start so 1. Generally, the patch should be twice the thickness of the windage. It was a bugger to load but shot cloverleafs at 50yds. Black powder guns are a whole different ball game compared to shooting standard firearms, but are still used for sport, reenactment, and enthusiast shooting. Heat crisco in lower i3 of pan until melts, then toss in patches to soak up lube, let cool.
Testing 3 different projectiles out of a thompson center white mountain carbine 50 cal. When i went to load the rifle i found the patched bullet to be an extremely tight fit. Thompson center muzzleloading bullets 50 cal 490 diameter. Mar 31, 2008 in talking with the guy he said his best load was with 65 gr of 3f using a. Please note that what patch thickness you use will also play a part in what ball size to use. Click the button below to add the cast round balls. I shoot a 50 cal flintlock tennessee mountain rifle. If you have a really loose bore a 495 ball may be needed. How to make patches for black powder shooting youtube. My particular rifle is sensitive to the patch lube used, but not to the extent you are talking about. Traditions performance firearms muzzleloader shooting. The patch round ball challenge long range hunting forum. Patch thickness, lube, ball size, powder type, powder charge, etc. We use october country bumblin bear grease to lube the patches.
Ive been hunting with round ball muzzleloaders for more than 50 years. The ball is then commony patched with a lubricated tightly woven cotton or linen material of around. Patches are available in 10, 15, 20, and 25 thou thicknesses in most good muzzleloading stores. I was invited to attend a competition type shoot this springsummer that is round ball only, i have 3 different stock 1. Bullets, balls and slugs stonewall creek outfitters. Theyre saturated with our natural lube formula that helps reduce fouling and lubricates the barrel as you load. I turned 67 years old last month, so to go out and shoot one of the best opensighted 100yard patched round ball groups i have ever shot more than assured me that the. If both can be accomplished, with accuracy and safety, a round ball rifle becomes more effective on big game. Toby bridges, north american muzzleloader hunting photo above left this 30year old photo shows a much younger toby bridges with an 1,800 pound bison bull, taken with a custom. The twist in a rifle barrel is designed to stabilize the. The bear grease is best for cold weather and helps lube the barrel as you seat the ball.
In talking with the guy he said his best load was with 65 gr of 3f using a. If you are using clean burning powders like the swiss, the good old spitpatch will work. For your round ball needs these 100% lead casted round balls come in. I have been cutting roughly square pillow ticking patches, and got to thinking. This knight 209 primer ignition 50 cal muzzleloader conversion kit converts black powder guns shooting no. At least 50 brands provide black powder guns and accessories, some of which include the following. Muzzle loader originals shooting patches 30 through 39 cal. I do agree about long range stuff i never have shot a deer much over 70 yards with any bp rifle thats why i like using them.
At 100 yards, independent testing has shown reduction in group size by as much as. The easiest method to choose the right patch for your round. Use in conjunction with traditions lubed patches or with traditions shooting patches dry and apply traditions ez lube. Self knapped flint there were some amber flints i bought a long time ago that were very old when i got them, really liked those. Black powder bullets come in significantly larger calibers than most modern hunting rifles, such as. Offered as dry, oiled, wonderlubed, or premium lubed on select sizes. As far as loose fitting patches, i like a tight combo that requires a ball starter to get going. Every time the velocity of something doubles, the energy behind it quadruples, so while a musket ball may travel feet per second, a. Speed is more damaging that mass of the projectile. The cartridge itself has been made in many variants.
Heres an easy way to make shooting patches for your black powder guns. Thompson center white mountain carbine 50 caliber youtube. Knight muzzleloading 209 primer ignition 50 cal muzzleloader conversion kit. Precision made from special tightly woven cotton, to insure uniformity. Ball, patch, powder combination to start deer hunting forums. This brand is wellknown for all kinds of firearms, which include the 1851 navy colt black powder revolver.
These recommendations are considered a safe place to begin but they are usually not the most accurate load. This seems to be your minimal patch thickness, but in fact it is not. View cart checkout wish list login you have 0 item s in your cart. Traditions performance firearms muzzleloader ballbullet. Perfectly shaped by a coldforming process for consistent diameter and weight, each of these round balls is coated to reduce the hazards of lead oxidation. Black powder muzzleloading shooting accessories buffalo arms. Traditions firearms is the only muzzleloader company that carries a full line of accessories including loading and shooting tools, cleaning accessories, snap caps, training cartridges. This item traditions performance firearms muzzleloader patch puller worm. To aid in seating your bullet, these thompson center. Round balls in fast twist rifles white muzzle loading.
Tightly woven cotton patches are resistant to burning. There are a number of different patch and ball combinations but in my experience, mostly with mu. The thompson center lubricated round ball shooting patches are designed for use on. Traditions performance firearms muzzleloader shooting patches. Constant thickness, weave, diameter, weight and thread count help eliminate these variables from your shooting. The thickness of the patches and the bullet diameter can be measured.
The brands of vintage hunting black powder and guns available on ebay. It is easy to determinate the minimum thickness of the material. You determine the correct ball patch combination by experiment. Muzzleloader shooting patches, pillow ticking, and bulk strips. I am wondering if this is considered too big for 45 caliber and 50 caliber. October country lubed daisy patches october country. Because of a broken hand, ive not gotten a chance to go out and shoot the patches yet. Whats the rule for ball size and patch size for a given. With a nominally 50 caliber rifle with shallow grooves, a. Range 50 yards, control black powder load goex ffg at 70 gr volume. Thompson center 100% cotton round ball shooting patches. Under stanag 4383, it is a standard cartridge for nato forces as well as many nonnato countries. Thin patches arent durable, so youre probably better off with a. You cant just open that end like a regular rifle, does.
Created with the same exacting precision as our cold swaged round balls, we designed a special plastic patch that makes these 50 cal. Its not, its perfectly center, right behind the shoulder. I agree with the comment about checking for burned patches, but sometimes that can be caused by too thin a patch, too weak a patching material, or by a new barrel with sharp groove edges. Choose the right patch size that can cover your ball completely. Good evening all, just sitting here musing about a weekend of shooting a new reproduction rifle. These absorbent cleaning tools are crafted from highly absorbent and gentle 100% cotton, which wont damage the interior of your barrel. Precision shooting patches for round ball track of the wolf. Musket at 35 yards into a plastic, water filled milk jug. It was by far the most accurate load in that gun, and while labeled light by a lot of guys, it killed with alacrity.
Everything you need to start shooting your blackpowder revolver is in the starter kit except the powder and caps. Windage here is the difference between bore diameter and ball diameter. I chose to start with patched round balls to get a feel for the rifle before i decide if i want to experiment with conical bullets. The thompson center round ball shooting patches are designed for use in. Jan 15, 2012 sara hartley firing her daddys 50 cal. Thompson center lubricated round ball shooting patches. When choosing black powder bullets, be aware of options with special features to improve performance, such as tips that deliver reliable expansion or reduce bore friction for. Muzzleloader round balls lead round balls for sale. Hornady swaged black powder rifle round balls per 100.
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